IA Participant: It’s about the, if it’s a natural deaths or it’s a accidental deaths, and for devotee or for just a normal person. I heard like for some tradition like 49 days kind of preparation. But you just mentioned it only takes a few hours ?
Swamiji: So, listen. Let me be very clear. When a person dies, natural death, he will assume the body in 3 sec. 3 kshana. Kshana means gap between 1 thought and the other thought. If you lived a complete life, for you the gap between one thought and another thought can be even 2 hrs. For a agitated person, the gap may be microsecond. So based on the individual mind within 3 thought, the third thought he has to have another one body. But the luggage transfer, all the incompletions and baggage and karma, knowledge, the art they know, the skills they know, the language they know, the efficiency they have all that to get transferred it takes 13 days. U-Haul service takes 13 days. You are shifting from Seattle to St. Louis. You go in flight and land in St. Louis, but all your luggage from Seattle to St. Louis takes 13 days. U-Haul service takes 13 days. Understand?
So, for a normal person, natural death, this is the way he dies and in 13 days the luggage is shifted. For a normal person, accident; because it is an accident, he has not committed suicide; he will be given a peaceful lounge till his natural death period comes. If he is supposed to die at 90 by exhausting all karmas, he dies at 50, forty years he will have a peaceful lounge in the transition zone. So, he will not be painful or hurting or suffering. He will have a peaceful lounge, like a resting and then in his natural death period he will take the body and the luggage will go with him. But if somebody commit suicide, he will have a terrorized lounge where he has to wait the natural period, till natural death period of death but it will be heavy suffering, worst suffering. That’s all is the difference. And if a devotee, especially initiated disciple, if he has a natural death, the moment his soul leaves the body I give him the option, the moment he goes through the NSP process, especially this death process.
Please listen; with all my integrity I am speaking this. Wherever you leave the body I will be there, the moment the death heat starts in your body I will be there. First thing I will be appearing and I will give you the option, if you want one more body you will have the conscious birth, you will carry only the completion pattern, all the other I disconnect it here itself.
The few loads of U-Haul vehicle will get into accident; it will never be transported to you. Only the completion part will come to you, other things will be burnt here. If you don’t want one more body you just disappear into MY form, into the restful awareness, in which I am happening. Understand, same way you are a devotee, if you face an accident, you will not be made to wait. The moment you are about to leave the body again you see me and I give you the option. You want to have one more body immediately you will have a conscious birth and only the completion patterns. You may be born in a gurukul or parents who will bring you to gurukul, who will bring you immediately to have my darshan and immediately connected, live and celebrate and enjoy the whole thing. If you don’t want one more body you just relax and, be in the restful awareness of ME. Even if you are a devotee if you commit suicide I cannot help. You have to go through the terrorized lounge and sit there, be there you go through the normal persons path, no way of any support or any help is possible. Clear..?
IA Participant: Yes. And I heard you say I will be resting with you.
Swamiji: If you decide.
IA Participant: If I decide I will be resting with you. Whether I be still individual consciousness.
Swamiji: There may not be any individual consciousness. There is something called Divya Shareera; means the body without body. The body which is not separate identity and if I have to explain more precise, it’s like a, if you consider the cosmic soul as a huge ice cream, you are also a small toy made of ice-cream, same ice-cream. The karana, kaarya both will not be separate from the origin; means the reason and the cause and happening and the whole thing you will not have a separate identity. You will be just in the space of Complete Completion. Clear.
IA Participant: Yes
Swamiji: You see, now as long as you have some other goal other than enriching, other than being part of what I am, you have a individual identity. If you decide you don’t want any other goal, any other individual identity, you just want only what I am which is Integrity, Authenticity, Responsibility, Enriching then you start experiencing that space even now. Clear. That is what Bhagavad-Gita calls Akshardhaama; Imperishable space. Where you do not have a individual body, it is called Saropya Mukthi. Saroopya mukthi means like a Nandi, Devi, Ganesha. All of them has no Individual identity, they are just Shiva, the different parts of Shiva. That’s all. Sameepya mukthi it is called, being near, liberated.
IA Participant: And I think every day we will go through death or certain part will go through death so that applies as well.
Swamiji: Yes
IA Participant: And if we keep doing Completion process, that means only the complete part will go to the next and incompletion part will be thrown away
Swamiji: Yes, but be burnt away. See, during the death I will naturally ask you, what do you want? You want one more birth or complete liberation. If you choose completion liberation you will be there in the same space as I describe. If you don’t even want to have a form made out of same ice-cream, you can just become one with the main ice-cream. That’s all. It’s like a ice ball can anytime become one with the huge snow hill. If you want to take one more birth you will become a conscious birth. All your completions will come with you, incompletions will be burnt, that is what is the purpose of this death process.
IA Participant: If I choose to take another birth does that mean there is still some little incompletion?
Swamiji: No, nothing like that, when you leave the body, when I ask if you wanted to take one more birth that is not incompletion. You just want to play or enjoy. That is perfectly alright.