Soul mates, Liberation, Completion

IA Participant:  So, if you have, like somebody has a lot of incompletions, they don’t finish with the person, and you were saying you have a choice about which body you want to go to, we hear about people who have incompletions again being born together or nearby, so…. 

Swamiji: Usually, when you have incompletions, you will never be born together or nearby.  I have always seen this husband and wife taking birth in opposite continents!  They don’t even want to meet with each other by mistake!  So, by incompletion you will never be born together or nearby.  Only if you are completely Complete, and deep friendliness you carry, you are born together.  If you listen, in Indian villages you will get some stories – husband died, and within one hour wife also left the body.  Not committed suicide; just fell and died.  Those kind of couples take birth together. 

Participant: And, are those kind of couples, they call like “soul mates”?

Swamiji: Yes, yes, yes.

Participant: The other one I had is, if you are a liberated soul, and you are getting liberation while you are living, I have always heard that seven janmas before you in your family also get liberated…

Swamiji: No, not liberation.  The possibility for liberation is given.  When the seven janmas – left, right, up, down….  Understand, understand this meaning: “Up” means, father, forefather.  “Down” means, brother’s kids.  They themselves may not have kids.  If they have kids, that generation, or the own brother, or own sister, their kids.  That is “Down”.  “Right: means, brothers and their relatives.  “Left: means, sisters and their relatives. 

Participant: So, everybody when they come to… 

Swamiji: when they leave the body they are given the option, possibility.  You are connected to this energy.  See, what I am saying, for example, I will give you my own example.  All my up, down, right, left, they remember me whether they accept me as an incarnation or not, but for all of them I am one of the important components in their life, in their memory, and, when they leave the body, naturally my memory will be awakened.  At that time, it will be told to them, ‘You are associated with this being.  Do you want to just merge with this being, or do you want to take one more body?’  If they accept means, they merge.  If they do not accept, throughout their life they lived against me, then they take one more body. 

Participant: And, then, I have also heard that there are seven lokas….you have Yakshas and all that…. 

Swamiji: No, no, no, not seven lokas; seven space, seven space where your patterns are stored.  Based on the pattern you have, you will go and enjoy there.  If you are a cricket player, you will get locked in a cricket stadium.  If you are very happy with the snakes and scorpions, you are put there;  that is all.     

Participant: Now, in the transition zone, you were mentioning, like thirteen days, and then your baggage goes over.  There was some movie that we saw which was recorded by somebody’s experiences where they were, you know, telling the past; souls who departed were giving the experiences, and they were talking about the transition zone.  But, how you can actually have a choice when you stay there, and you can work out your Karmas or work out more on your Completions, and then you still have a choice if you want to go back or go forward.

Swamiji: That is not true.  That choice is given only if you lived a very beautiful Completion while you are in the body, initiated by an enlightened being, not otherwise.

Participant: Thank you, Swamiji.

Are ghosts real ?

IA Participant: Swamiji, I had some question, but that has been answered.  I am very curious about the time duration.  You answered, ‘One-and-a-half hours medically’, you answered, ‘Thirteen days’.  Between the various analogies you have given about fractured mirror and the other mirror, I am very curious as to, when they say “spirits”, “troubled souls”…….

Swamiji: They are the committed, people who committed suicide.  Those terrorized souls….  See, you can’t even call them “souls”; it is like a broken, chaotic mirror on which the slight reflection also falls, because the reflection is universal.  So, what happens to that broken pieces of mirror is, it is so restless, it tries to jump here and there, but it is not powerful enough to enter into our body and harm us, because we already have a soul.  One body cannot have two souls.  So, it cannot harm you.  They can only be seen by you.  You get frightened and be harmed, you harm yourself.  They themselves have no power to harm you, because, ghosts have no power to harm you.  That is what I am talking now.  Because you have seven layers of you.  Let me describe the layers:

  • The body made out of bone, flesh, is the first layer.  
  • Second layer is your breathing structure, your breathing structure which has five actions – inhaling, holding, spreading, exhaling, cleaning – five actions.  This breathing infrastructure is called second layer. 
  • Your thinking infrastructure, that is third layer. 
  • Your feeling infrastructure, emotions, that is fourth layer.  
  • The deep sleep time what you experience, the rejuvenation infrastructure, like a refuel station, the fuelling station, that is the fifth layer.   
  • And, the bliss, joy, you experience once in a while in your life, the Completion, that is the sixth layer.   
  • And the soul reflection is the seventh layer. 

You have seven layers now.  But, that terrorized soul will have only three layers: the soul reflection, Completion layer, and the rejuvenation layer.  It will not have the emotion infrastructure, the thinking infrastructure, breathing infrastructure, and five senses body infrastructure.  When it has four layers less, it is less powerful than you.  It cannot harm you.  It can be seen by you, perceived by you, it can be your servant; but it cannot harm you. 

For example, if I tell a ghost, ‘Take this water bottle and keep it there.’, he can do it, but he cannot harm you.  For any human-being, he cannot harm.  Even if I tell, ‘Go and harm and that person!’, he cannot harm you.  He can appear in front of you; seeing that you can get frightened.  But he himself cannot torture you and give you suffering, because, he is a less powerful species, he is not a more powerful species than you.  That is why, all the black magic, sending the ghosts, all these negative energy things, they can only appear in front of you in the terrorizing form.  If you just laugh at them they can’t do anything.  They cannot touch you.  They cannot disturb you.  But seeing the form, you get shakened, frightened, have heart attack; it is all your stupidity.  By law they cannot touch you.  And by the natural flow of life, they will not be able to harm you.  They cannot enter your body like how the movies are showing.  They cannot snatch away something from you, or they can’t even touch you, because, you are a higher species than them.  It is like a tree; tree cannot come and beat you, understand.  Because, he does not have many powers you have.  You also breathe, he also breathes.  But if you run away, he cannot chase you.  Many powers which you have, he doesn’t have.  Same way, he cannot even fall on you and kill you.  Only if the wind comes, he can fall.  That is not out of his will; beyond his will only he falls.  Same way, a ghost is a lower level species.  He cannot harm you.  He cannot do anything to you.  He can only be seen by you.  He can only maximum request you for help. 

The ghost, maximum help you can do to them is, giving them the shraaddha in some energy centres like Badri, Bodh Gaya, or a Master’s stomach.  The food you offer to him, offer to Master, directly goes as shraaddha, pinda tharpana, to the ghosts, and they feel they are liberated.  They are given the smooth waiting lounge, or the smooth passover to the next body.  If your family ghost comes, the only help they can ask you is, they can ask you to give pinda tharpana.  If you give food to an enlightened master, or food, the shraaddha in brahma kapala, so those few kind of help you can do to them; other than that you also can’t help them in any way, they also can’t harm you in any way.  That much only is the maximum help they can ask you.  If you feel your parents or relatives, your family members’ ghost is present in your house, you are seeing them once in a while, or somebody is seeing them, you don’t need to be afraid; they may be just begging you for help to liberate them, to give shraaddha for them, to give pinda tharpana for them; that’s all, nothing else.  

And please understand, just let me repeat this.  A lawyer has to give the right legal opinion.  So, now, whatever word I am uttering, I am responsible for it.  I tell you, for all these words, I am responsible.  With that responsibility I am saying, everything I am uttering is the truth, because I know many of you will plan about your life, your death, your future based on my inputs now.  So I am responsible for the words I am uttering.